That NEW Adage

A pressure-relief valve about God, and just about everything else.

If I ever get caught in a hurricane, my name is Freddie A.I.G. Mac! Bail me OUT!


  

“Are you poor, helpless or destitute? Are you of  dubious descent? Are you in trouble as a result of bad choices or fate? Bail yourself out. The government is not for that kind of thing.”

 

“We are for small government. Help yourself. Get a job, quit being so lazy! If you are sick and can’t pay, TOO BAD!! Only the Strong (read: Privileged) survive. It is not our job to help you and throw hard earned taxpayers’ money at you.

“But, as sure as Freddie is a Mack, Fanny may! If you have lobbied to have less government oversight and subsequently taken advantage of the ignorance of the weak… If you have thereby caused the biggest financial crisis in eighty years…  If you have bet the farm and lost billions for investors while enriching yourselves… Well, have we got a DEEEEAL for YOU!!! 

 “Are you in the wonderfully crooked Insurance Industry, taking the monthly payments of millions, STILL charging them unattainable deductibles and raising the rates, and trying every dirty trick imaginable to get out of paying up? Here’s what we’ll do for YOU and ONLY you: We will get seven hundred, yes, seven HUNDRED billion with a “B” dollars and BAIL YOU OUT!!

“Hold on… China is on the other line…”

  

   

OHHHH. Now, I get it. I was wondering which “government programs” were cool. Yeah, it is vital that we save the valuable companies. Were they to fail, we would face untold calamity.

But we can let poor, lazy, inherently violent, drug addicted, ghetto minorities go under. We can just build more jails and cemeteries (separate ones!) and house them rather than improve public education, even though that is far cheaper and more Christian. We can let them all kill each other in their own communities. That won’t affect us. We bail out companies, but those rotting in flood waters have to bail themSELVES out. With rusty buckets.

We just should not have to have our taxes go to helping people we don’t even like. NO. Let’s take a TRILLION DOLLARS(!) and help our own kind. God Bless America.

Pay now, or pay later, but we ALL pay. 
 What follows is what is increasingly becoming one of the VALUES by which I vote: 

Matthew 25:31 “When32 the Son of Man comes in his glory and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 25:32 All33 the nations will be assembled before him, and he will separate people one from another like a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 25:33 He34 will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. 25:34 Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 25:35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 25:36 I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ 25:37 Then the righteous will answer him,35 ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 25:38 When36 did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or naked and clothe you? 25:39 When37 did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 25:40 And the king will answer them,38 ‘I tell you the truth,39 just as you did it for one of the least of these brothers or sisters40 of mine, you did it for me.’

25:41 “Then he will say41 to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire that has been prepared for the devil and his angels! 25:42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink. 25:43 I was a stranger and you did not receive me as a guest, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 25:44 Then they too will answer,42 ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not give you whatever you needed?’ 25:45 Then he will answer them,43 ‘I tell you the truth,44 just as you did not do it for one of the least of these, you did not do it for me.’ 25:46 And these will depart into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Strong stuff!

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September 24, 2008 - Posted by | AIG, Bailouts, Bible, Christian Life, Christianity, Conservatism, Conservatives, Fanny Mae, Freddie Mac, Hurricane Katrina, Hypocrisy, Mortgage Crisis

19 Comments »

  1. “I tell you the truth, just as you did not do it for one of the least of these, you did not do it for me.’ And these will depart into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

    People who despise the poor people tend to walk in their footsteps next ..

    http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/questions-and-answers/

    Comment by thenonconformer | September 24, 2008 | Reply

  2. Enough said.

    What else is there to say except. . .
    Amen.

    K

    Comment by KARIN | September 24, 2008 | Reply

  3. The truth is so painful to swallow.

    Comment by Rick T | September 24, 2008 | Reply

  4. Derrick, I read this post this morning and was literally tearing up. I have nothing to add, but you hit it right on the head. This is a GREAT post.

    Comment by wickle | September 24, 2008 | Reply

  5. Thanks, guys.

    Yeah, it doesn’t feel good. And the group to whom I primarily speak is Evangelical. For years, I have been torn and hurt to have to agree on paper with those who know the Bible while having to often disagree in practice. It hurts to have to explain and defend Christianity ( often within my own family) in light of so much real enmity and disregard.

    My recent church experience is the first time in my life where I have REALLY felt true love and fellowship among the races, and I know that that is how it is supposed to be.

    I just want the real Christians to stand up and the fake ones to get saved or stop using the Name!

    They have so inextricably woven the Name of Christ with a particular party that they must account for things like the above just as others have to reconcile accepting abortion, et al.

    I say this while Rick, who commented above actually WENT to New Orleans with a diverse number of people from my church.

    How can we reach the culture — the WHOLE culture — while being so hypocritical? And believe me, street folk can smell fakeness like you can smell a dead rat.

    How can one who holds his neighbor as less than, so arrogantly expect God to share eternal fellowship with Him? Unrepentant murder AND unrepentant racism can get you sent to hell.

    There are a lot of goats who think they are sheep!

    Comment by maxdaddy | September 25, 2008 | Reply

  6. Wow. Very powerful post.

    Thanks.

    Comment by Angie | September 30, 2008 | Reply

  7. […] “As sure as Freddie is a Mack, Fanny may” That one line had me ROLLIN’  Read the whole thing. […]

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  8. Well, Derrick…what can I say? You said it better than I ever could have.

    The banks weren’t thinkin’ about “bailin’ out” thousands of homeowners, who couldn’t afford their mortgages because of lost income. Nope. They’d have your furniture on your front lawn, and not think twice about it. No compassion. Pay up or get out. Now, the want us to “help” THEM???? They want us to believe that bailing them out will be better for US, in the long run. I don’t see that. It’s like choosing between drowning in the sea, or the ocean.

    The truth is those of us who know God are about to get much closer to Him — the times are evil. We will know Psalm 37:25, from experience, and not just hearsay.

    Trust not in banks and 401k’s, nor in presidents and political parties. Trust in The Lord of Hosts!

    Comment by anappygirl | October 1, 2008 | Reply

  9. HEYYYYYY! Where you been? I was worried! Glad to see you. Lotta catchin’ up to do!

    Comment by maxdaddy | October 1, 2008 | Reply

  10. I’ve been around, but just BUSY! I’ve got so much going on. I’m going to get my soap business up, probably by the end of the year/beginning of 2009. I’m one of the ones who need to have more than one income stream, to keep food in my mouth and clothes on my back.

    It would be/could be ME, in those first pics in this post, if God decided to cut off His matchless, continuous outpouring of…GRACE. I’m a sinner, saved and PRESERVED by it. I don’t know how people make it, without God.

    Comment by anappygirl | October 1, 2008 | Reply

  11. I hear you!

    Comment by maxdaddy | October 1, 2008 | Reply

  12. Listen to Dave Ramsey the Christian Financial guy’s description of what caused the problem and an alternative solution:

    [audio src="http://a1611.g.akamai.net/f/1611/23575/9h/dramsey.download.akamai.com/23575/audio/mp3/mydrs_blog/092308_mark_to_market.mp3" /]

    http://www.daveramsey.com/etc/fed_bailout/3_s teps_to_change_the_nations_future_10928.htmlc ?ictid=sptlt.

    Comment by Jeff Presley | October 1, 2008 | Reply

  13. Actually, Jeff, I’m no economist, but that Common Sense Fix sounds nice! I’ll bet it doesn’t happen, though…

    Comment by maxdaddy | October 1, 2008 | Reply

  14. Lately I’ve been asked personally where do I stand, it challenged me to articulate what is important and how I’m going to decide how to vote. (typically a very personal subject that i don’t like to get into, but lately all the ideology has been sparking lots of good discussions) Had my mind racing and it has been a good exercise for me… Feel free to comment on this, you won’t hurt my feelings 🙂

    First i should say that i am not an Obama or McCain supporter.

    I am reminded of George Washington’s farewell address where he warned against the party system. “It serves to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration….agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one….against another….it opens the door to foreign influence and corruption…thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.” He could have easily stayed in for a 3rd term but got out. I’m wishing there was a 2 term limit or some way to control the career corruption.

    What are the important issues we should be including in our grid on which way to vote – how would we summarize our stances to select someone who really will be a ‘representative’ for you?

    We have to first realize that the current system is broken. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWZ_4EXeyaA (Great video showing lots of Energy Independence talk over the years and oil prices)
    That is depressing to admit and then have to figure out who might actually bring (positive) change? Defining “positive change” is the challenge I’m trying to figure out and articulate.

    I’m inclined to start my own campaign to “vote out the incumbent” to get rid of the career politician and get some fresh blood into office.
    Most people have never read the second paragraph of the declaration of independence: http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm
    But then we’d still have to come up with a list of important voting issues on which to vote and how to measure the people running for office. How much to listen to what they say they will do (the above Energy Independence video shows that isn’t wise) or how they actually voted in the past or maybe try to figure out if they are actually trust worthy?

    Safe to say that most Americans are sick of politics as usual & the broken process (both parties): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS2fI2p9iVs (fiscal cancer? “unsustainable” you have to watch this!)

    Will out of control spending go up or down if one party (Dem) controls both branches?
    Legislative (Senate and House of Representatives) & Executive (Presidency)?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZYTOoCxegA (at least it was hinted about, but will it be changed)

    Fed Ex’s founder Fred Smith had some interesting thoughts:
    http://www.wrecradio.com/pages/mikefleming.html?_show (watch him)

    1) Trust
    Who can we trust more? (Again, I’m not a McCain or Obama fan)
    Fact Check: Did McCain warn about Fannie, Freddie 2 years ago?
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/30/fact-check-did-mccain-warn-about-fannie-and-freddie-2-years-ago/

    Who is saying what they think the most people want them to say so that they can get elected.
    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/24/will-obamas-fiscal-fairy-tale/?printer=1/

    If the media is biased where are some good sources to find objective info on both candidates? This article in print had both side by side for easy comparison. Seemed pretty ‘fair’.

    “Why This Election Matters To You” McCain and Obama weigh in on health care, taxes and the economy. http://entrepreneur.com/magazine/entrepreneur/2008/october/196984.html
    (here’s an excerpt:)

    Taxes: McCain wants to lower the corporate business tax rate from 35 percent to 25 percent, believing that will help American companies open new plants and create more jobs in the U.S. For individual income taxes, he proposes doubling the personal exemption from $3,500 to $7,000 for every dependent. He would hold the estate tax–which he calls “one of the most unfair tax laws on the books”–to 15 percent with a $10 million exemption per couple. “When you raise taxes in a bad economy, you eliminate jobs,” he says. “I’m not going to let that happen.”

    Taxes: Obama will focus on helping small businesses raise capital by exempting investments in these businesses from capital gains taxes. He says he’ll cut taxes for corporations that create jobs in America (working with the Treasury Department and the Joint Tax Committee to hammer out specifics). He also wants to institute a $500 “Making Work Pay” tax credit ($1,000 for working families) for almost every worker in the U.S. He would freeze the estate tax at its 2009 level of $7 million per couple and index it to inflation after that, which he says would eliminate estate taxes for 99.7 percent of Americans.

    2) Government is the answer (more taxes) or government needs to spend less than they bring in and not get any bigger and invasive.

    Signed AFTR Pledge Not to Raise Taxes
    McCain: Signed in 2000. Has proposed tax cuts.
    Obama: Did Not Sign (has stated he will increase taxes) Originally said people making 50k, then 75k, then 150, now 250, which will it be?
    He voted 4 times last year to increase taxes on those making 42k.

    Who (Actually) Pays Most Individual Income Taxes? (Class envy / redistribution of wealth / socialism). Percentile groups begin at income of:

    Top 50% $35,134; (pay 96.9% of total income tax burden) Holy cow, we (making over 35k) are the “filthy rich” and didn’t even know it.
    Top 25% $69,687;
    Top 10% $117,241;
    Top 5% $164,594;
    Top 1% $425,036.

    • As a result of the President’s tax relief, the share of taxes paid in 2008 by the BOTTOM 50 percent of taxpayers is REDUCED from 3.4 to 3.1 percent.
    • As a result of the President’s tax relief, the share of taxes paid in 2008 by the TOP 1 percent of taxpayers INCREASES from 38.4 percent to 39.1 percent.
    http://www.treas.gov/topics/taxes/TaxReliefKit2008.pdf – a must read from the us treasury, it’s only 3 pages with charts

    http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/js1287.htm
    I know people complain about the rich not paying their fair share of taxes but the top 1% of gross income tax payers in the U.S. actually pay over (40% of the total) 10 times the amount of taxes that the bottom 50% pay (3%). if you fall in the middle to lower income tax brackets your only contributing roughly 4% of the income taxes paid the other 96.9% comes from the upper income tax payers . some of the taxes that Obama is supporting would hurt big business and that would hurt the job market in the U.S. we are in a global market these companies can move there businesses to other countries where they can find cheaper labor and taxes . that’s what would really hurt the U.S. keeping corporate taxes low keeps these businesses competitive in the global market which helps the middle class

    The following story is a good illustration: Ten friends go to dinner in a restaurant, all of them Americans. The bill comes. One is expected to pay 65% of the bill, even though they ate no more than anyone else. The next four each pay roughly 8% of the bill, and also, they had no more than anyone else at the table. The remaining 5 people who also ate the same amount each pay less than 1% of the bill.

    This meal happens every day, and even though those last 5 are paying much less than they others, they begin complaining that the others aren’t paying enough. They think the first five should be paying more, even though everyone is eating the same amount. They especially think 65%-guy needs to be paying much more, because 65% is simply not enough. 65%-guy has been paying this much or more of the bill for decades now, and like the others, would like his/her share of the bill to go down.

    The crowd, however, each gets an equal vote, and they hope to raise 65%-guy/gal’s portion of the bill closer to 70%. Sooner or later, 65%-guy will get enough of all of this, and decide to take their business elsewhere, and then what will happen when the bill comes?

    People spout off about 65% guy not paying his ‘fair share’ when the history, the math and the facts simply don’t back that up.

    http://blog.heritage.org/2008/10/03/does-free-market-or-government-concentrate-power-in-the-hands-of-elites/

    3) Expectations of Government? As a Christian we are exhorted to hear the Word of the Lord. His Word says that if we humble ourselves and pray and turn from our wicked ways He will heal our land. If we are spending more energy on who to vote for instead of acting justly, loving mercy, and walking in humility with our God, perhaps we have misunderstood what it means to live as strangers in a strange land. Our hope should never be in a handsome or nice sounding person or someone who can promise us security…
    John Piper’s book “don’t waste your life” delineates our treasure & lifestyle: war time lifestyle or peace time lifestyle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5yJGFKYAFo

    If we were living this mandate out, maybe so many wouldn’t run to the government to show “compassion” for us. The question is, is the church (we are the church – not a building or institution) dropping the ball and becoming irrelevant?

    As citizens of the wealthiest country in the world, how much do American Christians give? http://www.generousgiving.org/page.asp?sec=28&page=223
    http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdateNarrow&BarnaUpdateID=161

    Trends in philanthropy: http://www.thegathering.com/_pages2/content.php?resource=329

    Fellowship Memphis has the right idea: http://www.fellowshipmemphis.org/hopehardwork.htm

    “Giving is a sign of a redeemed heart. We give to what we love, love gives lust takes” Bryan Loritts. http://www.fellowshipradio.org/?p=227
    He also said that there would be 6 billion to give to the poor if the US Christians tithed.
    Only about 6% of so called Christians tithe, and it is only 2-4% of their income.

    Francis Chan’s book Crazy Love. Thanks Andrew for sending me that book Tangible Kingdom, I’m only on chapter 3 but it seems to support this idea.

    4) Recognize the Media’s influence & extreme bias – telling us what to think and how to vote:

    In 1960 we had the first televised debate between 2 young candidates JFK at 42 and Nixon at age 47. Those who watched the debate unanimously said that Kennedy won the debate, those who listened by radio unanimously said Nixon won the debate. Kennedy’s father had been in Hollywood and he knew to use makeup and get out in the sun the day of the debate. Nixon looked pale and not as good. Not commenting on the candidates just bringing up that this was the beginning of the visual presentation being a deciding factor in choosing to elect a person who best represents us.

    Comments about SNL types blasting Palin’s interview: Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric spent two full hours each with Sarah Palin for the interviews that have run the past few weeks. You have to wonder what they didn’t decide to run. You don’t think they’d just air her worst moments, do you? The combative and argumentative method of “interrogating” her. The whole demeanor, including his body language and condescension was disdainful.

    ‘SNL’ Slices and Dices Palin: http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/05/snl-slices-dices-palin-biden-debate-send/

    I think all of can agree that if someone was following us around, they’d eventually find some mistakes we’d make.

    So why don’t we see the fair media, show Obama and Biden answering tough questions (off teleprompter). Not to mention that if someone else said the stupid things they say, we would hear day and night about them and see them on every show on TV. Here are a few that I remembered and looked up:
    – Obama has been in 57 states 1 left to go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
    – Biden Gaffe machine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VAzOIT4Ef8
    – Obama Gaffes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmY4Q-HHhaA
    – Obama introduces Biden as next President http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks4fmBgx7Wc
    – Obama Invents An Uncle To Liberate Auschwitz (actually liberated by soviet army) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzFR8IAD1jQ&NR=1
    – Yes We Can-Plagiarize! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcYXfbGnhA and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pux76QF_CLA
    – The Next President Is “Barack AMERICA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTjlAd-GXM
    – Obama Gets Afghanistan Language Wrong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae-Ak9WuUio&NR=1
    – Overstated 10,000 people dead in Kansas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrmkNJxRqLQ
    – Sexist Obama dodges important question http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKzm2-wfcNg
    – Pastor & Anti Semitic – confronted in PA http://www.youtube.comwatch?v=xSwAQP_gyWM&NR=1
    – Compassionate with your money, only gives 1% http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9d4teSWViA and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMlOKvTZcqM
    – Barack Obama Makes Shocking confession http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BnLozS-TnM

    My dictionary defines “moderator” as “the nonpartisan presiding officer of a town meeting.” On Thursday, PBS anchor Gwen Ifill was the moderator for the first and only vice presidential debate. The stakes are high. No guidelines on her duties or questions. But there is nothing “moderate” about where Ifill stands on Barack Obama. She’s so far in the tank for the Democrat presidential candidate, her oxygen delivery line is running out. In an imaginary world where liberal journalists are held to the same standards as everyone else, Ifill would be required to make a full disclosure at the start of the debate. She would be required to turn to the cameras and tell the national audience that she has a book coming out on January 20, 2009 – a date that just happens to coincide with the inauguration of the next president of the United States. The title of Ifill’s book? “Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.” Nonpartisan my foot. http://odeo.com/episodes/23427423-A-Debate-Moderator-in-the-Tank-for-Obama

    If interested in hearing another side of the mainstream media’s debate notes: http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/16136/

    5) Social Justice
    I find it odd that the Christians who put so great an emphasis on the Church taking responsibility for social justice also put so much hope in nationalized distribution of wealth. If we are to earnestly live out not being passive towards engaging in justice ourselves in and through our own local churches, does it make sense for Christians to get excited about a candidate who proclaims socialized government programs to be the solution to our nation’s problems? If we are to vote, shouldn’t we lend our support to those who are working toward less government involvement? Why do so many emergent types get excited about the prospect of having a president who wants government to do the job of the church?

    6) Fairness doctrine:
    “Forced to provide equal time to liberal hosts — an enterprise that has proved financially inviable time after time — broadcasters would soon have to increase the advertising rates for conservative programs to compensate for the liberal shows drain in ratings and advertising or to pull the plug on both, silencing some of the most prominent and influential voices on the right.” Doesn’t sound very fair or free market. http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/the_fairness_doctrine_at_work.html

    7) We are already seeing out of control spending, will it get worse or better with each candidate?
    June 2008, Member of the House Budget Committee issued that the House Majority (democratic) passed a budget that would impose the largest tax increase in American history while recklessly increasing wasteful Washington spending:
    http://www.cq.com/floorvideo/play.do?id=2897fefb03cea9e73235c056b0bfd6bc6205766e74be8cf67c6fd076314422a2143a2969e90ccc7f642aa78743b2789815a6dfe15b4c4fad4fbf257dc7228302220c514a0ce5a8b4

    8) Killing babies that survive abortions. This is about babies already outside the womb, alive and breathing.
    This is a voting record on a strange side of abortion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcGj78YoOHk
    Curious how Christians are so willing to overlook abortion (When Does Human Life Begin? & What is the value of human life?) as an issue to be put on the scale of discernment. I really don’t understand how Christians can get behind a candidate who so assiduously supports abortion. Obama might not proliferate violence against terrorists, but will he support violence against unborn children? I’m not exactly sure where McCain stands on the issue.

    Funding of Human Embryo Destruction
    McCain: Opposed recent legislation attempts
    Obama: Supports

    9) Will they / have they stood up to pork barrel spending (pork=palms greased to get votes)?
    The Armageddon economic bailout bill, supposedly to help the housing situation?:
    We’re helping out the TV and film people now.. there were huge bucks going to people with islands and electric transportation to their island. See page 297 & 199
    Tucked into pages 262 and 263 of the bill, for example, are provisions that will aid the manufacturers of “certain wooden arrows designed for use by children.” The bill will exempt the arrows from an excise tax of 39 cents. There are also tax breaks for race-track owners, for rum imported from Puerto Rico, for worsted wool makers, Hollywood film and television production companies and on and on.
    Bicycle commuters. Provides employees who commute by bicycle limited benefits to offset commuting costs. Estimated cost: $10 million over 10 years.
    Film and television productions. Allows more film and television show production companies to use the domestic production deduction. Estimated cost: $397 million over 10 years.
    Commercial fishermen. Allows commercial fishermen and others affected by the Exxon Valdez oil spill to average any settlement or judgment-related income over three years. Estimated cost: $49 million over 10 years.
    Motorsports complexes. Extends seven-year cost-recovery period to the end of 2009 for land improvement and support facilities placed in service after Dec. 31, 2007. Estimated cost: $100 million over 10 years.
    http://www.rossputin.com/blog/media/Senate10108.pdf (read it for yourself)

    “What would Regan do” video clips on various current topics: http://wwrdheritage.org/Resources.aspx
    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/wm2075.cfm

    10) Other important issues:
    – Nomination of Supreme Court justices who already are overextending their constitutional rights.
    – Compassion: Homelessness and hunger; no nation spends more on social programs for their citizens than the US and look at the results, the budget keeps increasing, is it improving things? How much government will be enough? It is an ever growing epidemic.
    – The sad question is who we can trust more to reform (scale back) a flawed system while making hard decisions to keep our country safe from continued terrorist attacks. Or maybe we should just ignore them and they’ll go away and not hate us once Bush is gone? is that the answer?

    -Abortion | Africa | Climate Change | Embryonic Research | Faith-Based Programs | Global Poverty | HIV/AIDS | Human Trafficking | Israel/Middle East | Marriage & Sexuality | Religious Liberty |

    A highly detailed voter guide, drills down on the issues, to see not only a candidate’s position, but the depth of that position. http://www.kitchentableblog.com/EF08H02.pdf

    I’d like to hear more on the claims of Obama having multiple ties to those responsible for the present economic crisis?:

    – Franklin Raines, the immediate past CEO of Fannie Mae – who has collected a $90 million golden parachute while driving Fannie into the ground – has advised Obama on housing issues and no doubt will be at least an “economic advisor” with Jim Johnson, yet another former Fannie Mae CEO, who resigned from Obama’s vice presidential search team when it was revealed he had received a sweetheart home mortgage deal.

    – Despite serving in the Senate for only four years, Obama himself has been the second-largest recipient of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac largesse in the entire Congress, ahead even of former presidential candidate John Kerry, who’s spent two decades in the Senate?

    – Obama’s long-time political ally, radical group ACORN, played a key role in pressuring banks to offer loans to those who were unlikely to be able to pay them back. ACORN has taken credit for pressuring banks to accept undocumented income as a basis for offering loans, for offering loans without using credit scores, and for making 100% financed loans available to low-income people.

    – That, in apparent defiance of federal election law, the Obama campaign refuses to identify individual donors who have provided almost half the funds for his campaign, including obvious fakes like “Mr. Good Will” and “Mr. Doodad Pro”? And that 11,500 donations to his campaign – totaling almost $34 million – may have come from overseas? Or that two Palestinians living in a Hamas-controlled refugee camp spent $31,300 in Obama’s online store? Who are all these people, and why won’t the Obama campaign obey the law and identify them? (more here:) http://townhall.com/columnists/CarolPlattLiebau/2008/10/06/do_you_know_the_real_barack_obama?page=2

    “Do Facts matter” by Thomas Sowell: http://townhall.com/Common/PrintPage.aspx?g=91e1d040-c6f8-4ab3-8fb6-8e4b8d335898&t=c

    Did Biden lie/exaggerate at least 14 times in the VP debate? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2096370/posts

    I still feel America’s is too brainwashed to pick anybody but who the media tells them too.

    This is already too long, I’ll stop here, probably lots of typos, was 5am when i wrote most of this in a hurry… Be praying for our country!

    Comment by JeffP | October 6, 2008 | Reply

  15. Great article, Max! Got me thinking mre how really unrighteous humanity is.

    Comment by Yomi | October 10, 2008 | Reply

  16. Wow, is all I can say. Have you actually read any of the Gospels? From what I can tell, your interpretation of them is that Jesus came down to Earth, looked around, and then told every to go help themselves or go to hell and then left. You’re obviously a very rage filled person and I hope one day you can sit and read the Book and realize that Jesus was preaching against exactly the kind of Pharisaical hatred and intolerance that you expound. He wanted to create a community that helps each other, not tears the throats out of the downtrodden and then gloats over their own perceived righteousness. Jesus has already forgiven you, but your life will be suffering until you let go of your hate and anger.

    Comment by Sojourner Truth | October 28, 2008 | Reply

  17. Please take the time to read through Jeff’s views with an open heart.

    For some, like Sojourner Truth, I get the idea that we have lost the ability to honestly consider perspectives contrary to our own. As Christians, we must strive for humility, and admit none of us “have it all figured out.” (rather than demonize fellow believers)

    I didn’t hear rage or hatred in his comments, but an earnest appeal to get others to consider points we may not hear every day in the mainstream media. For what it’s worth, here are my thoughts on a few of the issues being discussed:

    The responsibility to help the poor and oppressed in our world falls first to the Church. When we see failings around us, we should first ask: What can the Church be doing better/differently? rather than: What should my Government be doing better/differently? But almost just as important is this: our federal government was never designed to institute charity and compassion. It simply should not be given these responsibilities. Let me try to explain why:

    Historically, the federal government was designed to protect the nation from foreign powers, define and defend the freedoms outlined in our Constitution, and define and enforce the laws of the land that its citizens must adhere to. If charity and compassion must become part of the role of government (due to the failings of the Church), I believe it should be administrated at the state and local levels. Only there can legislators truly assess the specific needs of the people in a specific area. At the federal level, social legislation becomes bloated and unmanageable. It leads to overspending, poor stewardship, and ineffective results – simply because it cannot target the specific needs of any one group of people. (For instance, the minimum wage in the city of San Francisco, CA should never be the same as the minimum wage in Memphis, TN – we have 2 very different economies and a wide discrepancy in the cost of living of the 2 cities. If the minimum wage was mandated to be the same by the federal government, either the workers in San Francisco would starve or the small business owners in Memphis would be forced to close their doors.)

    It is easy to characterize the conservative political viewpoint as uncompassionate or less compassionate than liberals, but I would argue that this is an unfair judgment. True conservatives believe compassion should be administrated differently, and quite frankly, that it will then be more effective and much more meaningful to those receiving aid. If someone receives help from a person they have a relationship with, it is much more effective, and will more likely lead to long term change. If however, people are trained to expect handouts from a large impersonal government program, it becomes an entitlement that they will soon loose appreciation and thankfulness for. That is why it is so important that the Church steps up and fulfills its role in this area. Only then will the poor and oppressed feel the love of Christ through charity and have a chance to respond. Replacing the Church with the federal government is actually more harmful than helpful – it gives the Church an excuse to let a program or institution fulfill this important duty, and we lose our opportunity to be the face of Jesus to those truly in need.

    Comment by Joshua | November 6, 2008 | Reply

  18. Thanks, Joshua! That is a lot to take in.

    As I’ve said before, I have some conservative as well as liberal views, but as far as what the church as a whole SHOULD do, they — we — fall waaay short! And what is to be done in the interim, while we are waiting for hearts to be changed, to help those up against the clock?

    I agree that people will corrupt any system, but that includes the way we let our habits and prejudices and preferences, etc., affect the way we DO Christianity.

    And I don’t think people are “TRAINED to expect handouts.” My govt. TAKES my tax money, and as such, they are OBLIGATED to use it properly. While that includes police, fire, infrastructure and the like (redistributing wealth in the truest definition), I think it should encompass other areas of my life too.

    To say that does not brand me Socialist, or lazy, or any pejorative term (not saying that this is what YOU are doing at all!). I am nothing of the kind.
    Thanks, man!

    Comment by maxdaddy | November 6, 2008 | Reply


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