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Charlatan’s Web


I’m sitting here at this very moment listening to Creflo Dollar telling his congregants that the only way to deal with negative or sinful thoughts is to use words. And that if you say a negative thing such as, “I don’t believe I’ll live past 35,” you’ll die at 34 1/2. He has seen it happen!

This is the core of the Word of Faith lie: that the world is governed by the words you SAY.

A thought occurred to me: What about people who can’t talk? Can they not be delivered from negative thoughts? Can a mute person not be healed because he has no tongue with which to speak? What about someone in a hospital who is bandaged up and unable to say words out loud? This is some stupid, un-thought out theo-illogical materialistic madness! Please, people, stop giving these charlatans a foothold in your minds and pockets, and THINK!

This is ridiculous! And so many have bought into it because THEY want to be in control of whether they are healthy, or wealthy enough. When I was a child I would sometimes sneak and do something without asking my folks, because I knew there was a possibility they would tell me “no” if I asked. We are often scared to ask, “if it be thy will” because we know that He may not desire that we get the high-paying job, or the big house, or the flashy car. He may tell us that His “grace is sufficient,” and we may not want to know that.

Christianity is not about jobs, cars, breakthroughs, situations, and other sloganistic foolishness. It is about serving God, worshipping God, SUFFERING for, and like, Christ, and for telling everybody else who He really is and what He really DID!

He says that the Christian does not want the responsibility of changing their own situation. That we want to see what GOD’S gonna do for us.

That is very clever. To take what God has told us is  HIS job, and make it seem as though it is a sin to act that way, but proper to command God to do OUR will.

“See, you still think GOD’S in control!” He says boldly. Creflo thinks that we need to know that God has given US the control. Blasphemer! What kind of god does he, or you if you follow him, serve who gives up the wheel?

These Word of Faith hucksters weave a web of lies that ensnare the greedy and selfish among us. They are infecting the entire world with this counterfeit brand of Christianity, and the only way to stop it is for REAL Christians to learn the Word of God-book by book and not quote by quote- and to stand up and sit these spiders down!

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September 7, 2007 - Posted by | Benny Hinn, Charlatans, Christianity, Creflo Dollar, False Doctrine, False Prophets, False Teachers, Frederick Price, God, Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, Paula White, Prosperity Gospel, Pulpit Pimps, Religion, Rod Parsley, TBN, Televangelists, Word of Faith

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  1. Brother, cashflo Creflo lies through his teeth like a dog. That guy doesn’t know the Lord, and any right-thinking professor of Christ ought to walk away from him – like some of us did.

    Comment by Yomi Adegboye | September 10, 2007 | Reply

  2. I heard Mr. “Creep-yo-dollah” once say that he wasn’t “gonna be no broke fool.” He got the “fool” part right! I’ve never seen so much twistin’ of scripture in my life as that PIMP in the Bentley!! He also has a private jet, mansions, etc. He’s a full fledged PIMP!! Watch out for anyone on TBN…it’s all about money and the good ol’ boys who run it.

    I heard John Avanzini say on YOUTUBE that people won’t listen to you if you don’t have money or look the part….WELL MR. FALSE TEACHER JOHN AVANZINI….THEY LISTENED TO JESUS DIDN’T THEY????

    Comment by EX-TITHER | September 14, 2007 | Reply

  3. Don’t WALK away….run away from this false doctrine as fast as you can and find the real Jesus.

    Comment by EX-TITHER | September 14, 2007 | Reply

  4. If anyone of you would learn to read the Bible, you would clearly see that you are unclear in your prejudices. First, hopefully if you call yourself a true christian or man/woman of God you would believe the Bible thru and thru.
    The Bible clearly states that death and life are in the power of the tongue. Thus meaning, what you say is ultimately what you will become. Also, the statement from John Avanzini saying that people won’t listen to you if you don’t have money. This is very true. first off Jesus Christ was not poor. If he was, why would he need a treasurer??? Do you know his name? Judas! Lets you look at this from a worldy stand point. People that has wealth are sought after. Why??? Because their wealth is a symbol of wisdom. Nobody wants to be broke… so the smart thing to do is to get information from the individual that was once in my position and now is rich and find out what they did!!!!

    Comment by Knowledge | September 27, 2007 | Reply

  5. Well, Knowledge, it’s clear to see that they have YOU securely in their web! Nothing to fear from you.

    If YOU call yourself a Christian, you would believe that while it is true that the Bible says that death and life are in the power of the tongue, it is a LIE that you can, as you assert, ultimately become what you say.

    Were that the case, I could become a head of cabbage by repeating, “I’m a cabbagecabbagecabbagecabbagecabbage.” Or I could become a horse, or a maple tree by doing the same. This is logically ridiculous.

    What the Bible says that trumps this mess, is that GOD ALONE is the only One who can create ANYthing.

    This statement comes from Proverbs 18:21. AS you must know, or NEED to know, a proverb is a general truth. Not a prophecy. This statement was never meant to be some incantation, or spell like “open sesame.” This passage, as does much of the entire book of Proverbs, deals with wise speech versus wicked, foolish, idle talk. Not how to get healed or get STUFF! Look at the context.

    And when you get through with that, note that in the SAME chapter, verse 2 states that “a fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions.”

    And can we just let this be the LAST time we hear this LIE that Jesus was rich? Based on the fact that He had a treasurer? That is crazy! Junior HIGH schools have treasurers! Big AND small ones. That is the flimsiest justification for a biblical pretext ever!

    The same reason you and yours want to make Him rich in order that you may identify with Him in your selfish desire for wealth is the precise reason that He made Himself poor.

    So that the lowest of the low can identify with and seek to serve and worship Him.

    Don’t you see that Jakes, Avanzini, Dollar, Price and all their ilk want you to think like that so that they can justify their ill-gotten wealth and get more of it from YOU?

    THEIR wealth is not, as you say, a symbol of their wisdom, but a symbol of SO-CALLED Christians greed and biblical laziness. Wealth is no more a symbol of wisdom than poverty is a symbol of stupidity or separation from God.

    JESUS Himself said not to seek after riches, which thieves steal, and moths and rust corrupt, but to store up treasures in HEAVEN which they can’t get at.

    You cannot think of ONE middle-class, or poor person whose wisdom is not sought after?? What about a public defender? Or a small-town doctor? What about a TEACHER? Do they not have wisdom? Shall I continue?

    Wealth is not the sin, the MOTIVES for gaining wealth can be. And if you eschew the true “Knowledge” of God and His Word, instead choosing to follow these wolves in a greedy attempt for wealth and status, you, my friend, are in the midst of sin.

    Comment by maxdaddy | September 27, 2007 | Reply

  6. i think you guys are missing everything! what’s wrong with being a christian and have the blessing of the Lord over your family and wealth? can we not be rich and righteous. there’s nothing wrong with money, it’s the love of money that is wrong. we can have victory over any circumstances in our lives because Jesus went to the cross, died, and rose from the dead to take the authority from the devil and gave it back to us humans. that authority to speak and have power was once lost when Adam gave it away in the garden of Eden. if you truly listen to the message from ministers from WoF is that we’re giving all the glory, honor, and everything we own to God. it’s through obedience, faith, and spirit led that we’re blessed. “if you seek the kingdom of God first, then he will add everything onto you.” to see a harvest you must plant a seed and feed that seed with your faith. that seed is going to help bless someone and i don’t care who it is as long as God see that i am obeying him someone will come my way to help me. i say that it is true we give our 10% that belongs to God and offerings on top. it’s through giving that i have become a better person…now, i’m not rich! but i’m rich in the holy spirit and i’m in line for my blessing. when someone gets blessed with what they hoped for…i don’t get mad or jealous…i’m like…wow, God is great. if you look in the old testament kind david and other kings were rich…and he did a lot of things that would not get away today. he was a murderer and committed adultery. CNN & FOX, would have a field day about a man of God who did that. but look God forgave him and he repented and his wealth passed on. people think that Jesus was poor…it never said that in the bible…why would God send his only son to be broke…Jesus talks a lot about prosperity through God. i don’t think anyone of us has ever took money advice from a bum.

    Comment by hmmm.. | October 11, 2007 | Reply

  7. No, the fact is that I think that you are missing a couple of things… First, the point is not that I think God wants everyone poor, which is the straw-man argument the WoF uses, but that He wants us CONTENT in whatever state we find ourselves, as the Bible teaches. And the VICTORY that we can have in our “circumstances” is to be resigned to God’s will, whatever that is.

    Jesus did not go to the cross for that or any authority , but to RECONCILE us to the Father, to HEAL the rift between us, NOT to heal cancer, or such, which is the proper context of Isaiah 53:4, 5. The PHYSICAL portion of that passage was completely fulfilled in Matthew 8:16-17. Please read it. And please read the context– before and after– any such passage you hear quoted. No matter WHO teaches it. This is your Christian duty.

    That stuff about Adam having lost the “authority to speak and have power…” Please show me where the actual BIBLE teaches that. And other of the teachings of WoF teachers that take authority- and divinity- from God, and give it to man.

    I humbly suggest that WoF ministers do NOT give glory to God (precisely by claiming that men are in any way god material), but they usurp the glory of God and give glory to “Faith,” man and mammon! They brag about STUFF, and whip folk into frenzies about all the STUFF God is trying to get to them. They tell sick people that their lack of faith, not God’s sovereignty, is alone the reason for their sickness. This is dangerous.

    In the Sermon on the Mount, which is where you got your quote about “seeking first the kingdon of God…”, PLEASE note that the context of the entire sermon is not about being rich. And the near, specific context of your statement, Matthew 6:33, clearly shows that The LORD is not speaking of being rich and diabetes-free, but of being CONTENT, and worry-free. Please notice that.

    I cannot stress this next point more strongly: Please notice that in the SAME chapter, Jesus tells us “DO not store up for yourselves treasures on earth… store up for yourselves treasures in heaven,” for your heart will be where your treasure is!!! That is to say, if you focus so strongly on earthly wealth and materialism, that is what you will worship.

    The Bible never says that Jesus was poor? Allow me to differ! Everything about his life says He was poor. There is no shame in being poor. He “Made Himself nothing,” His parents were of meager means, He was born in a stinking sheep stable, “birds of the air had nests, but the Son of Man had nowhere to lay His head.” Five-member churches have treasurers, so spare me the Avanzini, T.D.Jakes quotes. I could go on. He even told a RICH guy to go and sell everything he had in order to follow Jesus. But the guy loved his stuff too much.

    And SEEDS in the Bible are more likely DEEDS than MONEY! That is a ploy to get ours.

    We who decry the false teacher are not doing so because we are “jealous” of their money. I certainly am not! As a matter of fact, it is ALWAYS the WoF adherents whom I constantly hear gleefully yelling about “the wealth of the wicked being lain up for the just!” and delighting in being “the head, and not the tail.” (Didn’t Jesus chastise His disciples for arguing over status?)

    Yes, David was rich. As was Abraham, Solomon, Job, Joseph and many others. But the often-missed point is that many saints were dirt poor. And they were no more less blessed than the rich ones. God is able to work through ALL, rich, AND poor. This shows that financial status is no determinant in being blessed by God. And I never heard Creflo or any of the others quote the passage about asking God to make us content in whatever state we find ourselves. We don’t have to lie on Jesus’ tax bracket in order to rationalize our desire, not for God, but for what is in His HAND!

    God says His strength is made known through our weakness. And if we get our status from what we have, rather than in the service of God, we essentially say we don’t need His help, and the reward we get here is all that we will get!

    Finally, find out what true prosperity is. God sent “His only Son to be broke,” as you say, perhaps because in that way, the lowest of the low can beseech Him and identify with Him. I bet you can’t “touch the hem of Creflo Dollar’s garment” without getting a beatdown! Also, God came in meager humanity and can identify with OUR hunger, pain, and weakness.

    Come on up in your thinking. Life is not all, not even MOSTLY, about money! Money should be our servant, not the Master whose presence we so fervently desire! That is all I am trying to say here.

    I am not trying to belittle you or disrespect you. It is just that I can’t stand seeing people robbed in broad daylight. God bless you, Derrick.

    Comment by maxdaddy | October 12, 2007 | Reply

  8. Creflo Dollar is right. Think about it. In the beginning God said let there be LIGHT and LIGHT became. It’s the same with being a child of God. You have the same power to SPEAK victory in every situation. You mix Faith and find the scripture that fits your situation and you will have what ever you speak and believe. The word of God says as a man THINKETH in his HEART so is he. You can have what you say. But, such is according to YOUR FAITH. Life and death is in the power of the tongue (what you speak). So, I would rather live in the overflow and help others than to live in the “not have enough” and envy those that work the word of God and God prospers them. I thank God for Creflo Dollar. The first thing people think about when they hear the word Prosperity is money, but prosperity is starts in the mind first and if you don’t have a mind of prosperity (believing you can be debt free from every issue in your life) then you shouldnt expect anything from God, but your bare necessities.

    Comment by Zhip | June 1, 2008 | Reply

  9. By the way, I spoke for 3years that I would win a car off the showroom floor and my friends laughed at me. Guess what? I won a 2004 Cadillac Escalade off the showroom floor! Tell me there is not power in what I speak, Ha! I’m still speaking what I want today and God has my back because the scripture says ” God will not withhold no good thing from me”. Amen? Amen!

    Comment by Zhip | June 1, 2008 | Reply

  10. I would humbly suggest that you, Zhip, learn to contextualize certain passages as the ones you have misquoted.

    As for your Escalade; with oil being as high as it is, I hope you start speaking God’s will for some gas money! You would think he would have blessed you with a Hybrid…

    Comment by maxdaddy | June 3, 2008 | Reply


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