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The following is a letter I wrote to the famous Word of Faith preacher, Creflo Dollar a few years ago. He is a prosperity preacher in the line of Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen, Clarence McClendon, Frederick K.C. Price, Rod Parsley, and many others. It was in response to a horrendously unbiblical doctrine he and his ilk espouse which suggests that mankind can and should aspire to Godhood. It also makes God submissive, in a way, to men in the “earth realm.”

 This appears to be a foundational tenet of the WOF movement, which is marked by a desire, not for God, but for the STUFF God has. Prosperity. Health. They also characterize “faith” as a substance one uses, through words, to accomplish one’s personal will. It is my opinion that they are charlatans, who have become rich at the expense of their uninformed followers. They populate the “Christian” airwaves to the point where they have become what many, if not most, mistakenly believe to be true Christianity. TBN, with their periodic “Praise-a-thons,” often feature the aforementioned “celeverends” along with other false prophets such as, Benny Hinn, Juanita Bynum, and Paul Crouch. We are often the butt of ridicule because of them. Rolling old women for their last dime! I am sick of it. We have to defend God in the face of this wanton materialism.I spent so much time complaining about this particular program, that one friend suggested that I do something about it, so I, having recorded the program (I still have it), wrote him, going line by line. The letter is, therefore, quite long and if you do read it, you have my gratitude. The crowning insult is that after having done all this work, sending this uncomplementary letter (14 handwritten pages!) via hardcopy AND email, What I received in return was a FORM LETTER THANKING ME FOR MY FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION AND ASKING FOR MY INFORMATION SO THAT I COULD MORE EASILY SEND MORE!!This guy cannot fear the God he claims to know! Thank you in advance for your time. Feel free to be outraged.

Dr. Creflo Dollar Worldchangers.orgI was recently watching your program (Developing Faith in the Anointing, the week of February 19-23) and I saw a number of things that disturbed me greatly. I was frustrated and dismayed at what I heard, and at the behest of a friend, was left with no option but to write you.

I am a Christian who takes seriously the exhortation of Jude to “contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.” Jesus left us with a Gospel that was pure and in no need of our embellishment, and daily I see the outline of that Gospel fading and changing into something base and tainted.

It seems that the average “Christian” today has only a cursory knowledge of the belief system he lays claim to. Just enough to send him down that, wide path that leads to misery and teeth ground to powder! They glance sidelong at the light God put in us all, but instead of walking toward it, they head in the opposite direction toward the gospel of Earthly Pleasures.

Everywhere I turn, I seem to bump into someone who thinks that what Christianity is about is doing enough good deeds to go to heaven. And more and more, I run into amateur poets naming and claiming, believing and receiving, blabbing and grabbing, confessing and possessing ad nauseam! They treat the sovereign God of the universe as some sort of pinata to be smashed open and pillaged at their own will. They ignore the fact that God has never agreed to grant us ANYthing outside of His will. The Bible teaches us repeatedly that we are to ask of God those things that fall within HIS will, not ours. If I want a wife, and God says “no,” I cannot simply reach up and symbolically snatch it out of His hand! If I want a new job or a new car or a house, no amount of faith will give it to me unless God says so.

We are to wrap ourselves around the desires of the Lord, but instead you and an increasing number of others are teaching, in a transparent attempt to appeal to our basic human desire for material possessions and physical well-being, that God is a piece of string to be tied around our fingers. We with the wisdom of gum wrappers!! And when our prayers are not answered to our liking, you make us feel that our faith is lacking rather than noting that perhaps an all-knowing God knows what is best for us. Or that perhaps the “preacher” is not who he claims to be.

These and other of your teachings are disillusioning countless millions, and turning them from the true Gospel that has for us far, far more than our ephemeral satisfaction! “Store up for yourselves treasures in HEAVEN. . . .” “Though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him. . . .” But bibles are left unread and multitudes leave their churches (if they even go at all) and God until next Sunday. They don’t study His word, and therefore, place themselves at the feet of whatever wolf wears the best sheep suit.

Our culture is hopelessly materialistic. We run ourselves ragged in pursuit of the sybaritic lifestyle Epicurus spoke of. We want as much money as we can get and all it can buy. We want offices on the top floor, personalized parking spots and license plates, mansions with views, fame, glory, and bodies free from pain.

And, seemingly, in response to this societal hue and cry, certain men of the cloth have created a god that answers all these demands. This god is not unlike the genie in the Arabian tale, only this one will grant an unlimited number of wishes. If you want a promotion, click your heels together! If you want your debt wiped out supernaturally–fold your arms and blink! If you want your cancer healed–wiggle your nose! If you want a loved one raised from the dead–say abracadabra! Presto! If you suffer in your life in any way, it is only because you don’t have enough Faith in the genie to invoke his power. He is at your beck and call, there to be bent and twisted to your will! Isn’t that wonderful?!

Where was he when Paul was suffering imprisonment, torture, and infirmity? Where was he when all those disciples–those who ate, slept, and walked with Jesus–were killed for believing in Him? Where was the genie when Christians in the early church days lived in the catacombs beneath Rome to escape persecution? Where was he when martyrs throughout the ages willingly gave their lives in the fellowship of Christ’s suffering? If only they had known, it could have all been avoided; the lions, the suffering, the misery, the beheading, the burning at the stake.

Instead, they held fast to a God that taught that to follow Him would bring suffering. This God says that in our weakness His strength takes center stage. This God says that, for many of us, a life of ease can bring forgetfulness and self-reliance. This God says that rather than laboring and hoping for corruptible material possessions, the true prize is unseen and unfathomed. This God says that in following Him, you forfeit your life for that which is greater. This God is not a respecter of men and cannot be bent to the will of any man. His ways are not our ways, His thoughts are not ours. Our genius is less than His foolishness. His love is for our souls, not our pocketbooks and our soft bellies.

My point is that so many Christians today are easily led and misled by what they see and what they want. They don’t know the whole truth, and so much of what is out there is–at a glance–just an unreasonable facsimile. We have so much blind faith in the man in the pulpit that–unlike the Bereans–we are subject to whatever he says without scrutiny (scrutiny is mutiny!). If the pastor says “ask and receive,” we believe it without exploring the CONTEXT that proper interpretation demands. If the pastor says “move mountains,” we don’t wonder why none of us has ever moved one. We just go along to get along–at the expense of proper exegesis and countless souls.

As I mentioned at the outset, your program bothered me to the point of response. While I possess no doctorates or ordinations, I consider myself a member of the priesthood of all believers. How could I watch problematic teaching go forth and not be moved to some kind of action? While you may or may not agree with the content of this letter (if I pray–in Faith–that your doctrine changes, will it?), the Bible speaks loudly enough. It is my desire that you take a look at your teachings and their potential harm to your followers.

At the beginning of your program, you stated that God has set in motion laws that He Himself can’t contravene. While this is partially true in the sense that two plus two will always be four, and that God, being Holy, cannot sin, your purpose for making this statement is an attempt to make the sovereign God of the universe subject to something or someone other than Himself. This is evidenced by your repeated and persistent use of such terms as “illegally,” and “no legal authority.” How appalling to suggest that the God who owns the earth and the fullness thereof, (Psalm 24:1) the God who does whatsoever He pleases (Psalm 115:3, 135:6), the God who dresses Job down unequivocally can be constrained by anything!

You say that God cannot do anything in this “earth realm” without a physical body, but you provide no biblical basis for the assertion. Remember that even if you were able to twist some verse from the Bible to support this far-fetched claim, context demands that it be reconciled with the overwhelming number of verses that proclaim God’s ultimate “authority!”  The God of all that is will not contradict Himself.

You say that Adam was created with blood type “G,” insinuating that he was some kind of  direct representation of God. As though when you looked at Adam, you saw God. You appear to take the fact that God gave Adam “dominion” to mean he (Adam) was in ultimate control. However, Adam was in dominion in the same sense that we “own” our bodies, and that we “own” our material possessions, and that the house I rent is mine. Once again, the context of the Bible as a whole makes this unmistakably clear. Rather than Jesus being the last Adam, you seem to view Adam as the first Jesus. Any baby Christian knows that Adam sinned, God cannot sin and therefore Adam can in no way be God. Besides, God Himself said that there is, was, and will be, only one God–big “G” or little “g.”

A little later on, you go to Matthew 5:1, where Jesus drives the demons from the man at Gerasa. The Bible says that the man, seeing Jesus and immediately knowing Him, ran up to Him and fell to his knees in the posture of genuflection, and begs the Lord not to torture him. By all indications, he appears to react to Jesus the way a subdued bully would his conqueror. Verse ten says that he “begged Jesus again and again.” He is in the presence of the Almighty God and knows it.

You, however, place the demons in the position of telling Jesus where He can and cannot be (to the amens of your flock), and what He can and cannot do, “You can’t touch me!” (Wagging his finger in Jesus’ face!) You say that where the demon was right was in the fact that God has no legal authority to be “on this planet if You don’t have a physical body.” You assert that God can’t operate in this “earth realm” since Adam supposedly gave God’s power to do so over to Satan when he sinned in the garden. Were this true, how does God destroy the earth by flood, or destroy Sodom and Gomorrah by fire, or cause the walls of Jericho to fall, or protect the Israelites with a pillar of fire, or part the Red Sea, or rain manna from the sky, or cause Balaam’s donkey to speak, or interact with Old Testament figures on dozens and dozens of occasions? This is an absurd assertion. Your scenario plays out like a novel, and a bad one, full of contradictions and loose ends!

I am led to believe, and I may be wrong, that the fact that you (and those of the same ilk) express the need for God to have a “physical body” in order to operate “on this planet” is some desire to elevate humanity to the level of some kind of deity. You would not be the first. Creation has been aspiring to the throne of God from the beginning. Satan told Eve that to eat of the forbidden fruit would make her like God. Satan himself was tossed out of heaven for that desire. The builders of the tower of Babel attempted to reach heaven. So you may be in well-known company.

You go to 1John 4:1-6, which illustrates that those who deny that Jesus Christ (God in human form) came in the flesh are false prophets. You use this passage to promulgate your theory that God needs a physical body to cast out demons. In your dramatization, you have demons with their hands on their hips sassing God, saying, “What in the world are you doing here, God? . . . I don’t have a physical body, and You don’t have a physical body. . . . You can’t fool me with that body on.”

Now, according to you, the demons are addressing Jesus (they called him “God”), but they say He doesn’t have a body. Then, in the same statement, you say He has a “body on.” This seems like jibber-jabber, but I’m just a layman. You seem to have my Lord and Master relegated to playing a cosmic game of  “Simon Sez.”

Next, you send Jesus to hell “illegally” to orchestrate a prison break. Jesus is like Richard Burton in “Where Eagles Dare,” dressed up as a German officer, or a damned soul sneaking around the dungeon unlocking cells and finally throwing off His disguise in triumph, to Satan’s horror. Trumpets blow a fanfare as Satan realizes he’s lost! Even though your god triumphs in his undercover cop role, your version of events is not biblical, and that is the point. The nature of God is the crux of this issue.

You say Jesus was in hell for three days and nights, but nowhere does the Bible advance this assertion. You use as confirmation Acts 2, saying “He suffered the pains of death.” Acts 2:24 actually says that “God raised Him from the dead, freeing Him from the agony of death. . . .” Obviously, this passage speaks of Jesus’ torture and suffering on the cross, and the manner in which He died, so your declaration that Jesus went to hell for our redemption needs, and will not find, further proof.

Jesus said “Father, into your hands I commit my Spirit.” When He breathed His last, He said “It is finished.” Was He just talking about His life? Or the work He came here to do? The context confirms the latter. He told the thief on the cross that “today” he would be with Jesus in paradise. When the Bible spoke of Jesus being in the heart of the earth for three days and nights, clearly it was speaking of the grave, not hell.

It seems to my uneducated ear, that when you say that Jesus was the “first born of many brethren,” you are implying that “since there is a first one . . . there’s got to be a second one . . . like Him and a third one . . . like Him ( and a) fourth one . . . like Him,” that you, a mere mortal man in no way deific, are “somewhere in the number” of beings like God. This worries me, and seeing the cheering thousands in your congregation, and the frequency with which you appear on the air, I would hate to think that this throng of humanity could be led to believe they could possess the attributes of divinity, as well as believe these other misconceptions of God’s nature.

“Did Jesus come to this earth functioning as God?” you ask. The Biblical answer is “yes,” but in perhaps the cleverest twist of the program, you say “no.” Here you walk your listeners through a mine field, deftly avoiding true facts that could blow your whole tale to oblivion. You say that He had to come as a man in order to be an example to a man. First of all, Jesus came to earth to be the perfect sacrifice, the sinless Lamb, not to show us how to walk on water, and raise the dead and to be perfect. Those things, along with His other miracles and proclamations served to prove He is God.

Of course, His humanity was an example to us–service, humility, love, self-control–but He came as God and said so! Jesus said “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30), and the Jews tried to stone Him, saying He claimed “to be God.” These people, well affiliated with Scripture knew what Jesus was saying. He said in John 8:58, that “before Abraham was born I am.” “I Am” is the name of God told to Moses in Exodus. Philippians 2:5-11 has Paul asserting Jesus’ deity. His deity is precisely the reason He was able to be sinless, despite what you say, otherwise we wouldn’t have needed Him, and somewhere else in history there would be evidence of perfect, sinless people.

It seems once again, in my crude thinking that this is a further attempt to snatch for yourself the attributes of God: the ability to do what He did, and to “develop your Faith to do any of the things you read about.” To those like me who would claim mere humanity, you say, waving your hands in praise, “I’m trying to tell you you ain’t just a man.” Dangerous.

Next, you move to James 1:13 in your first step in busting Jesus from His Supreme position to that of mere human. James 1:13: “God cannot be tempted by evil.” Question: Did Jesus come as God? (See where this is going?) You then go to Psalm 8:5 where David, in praise of God’s glory, says “You made Him a little lower than the angels.” While you say that the word “angels” in this verse is translated “Elohim,” there are a few definitions for this word, and the CONTEXT once again determines the meaning. (The cynic in me sees that in order to complete your scenario of Jesus being less than God, for however short a time, you must twist passages to make your case.) Man is created a little lower than angels, and Psalm 8 is speaking of man, based on verses 6 through 8. While “Elohim” does mean “God in Hebrew, it also can describe representatives of God, such as judges, and angels in this case.

The New Testament passages, Hebrews 2:7 and 2:9 use the Greek word, “Angelos” (It is very slick how you went to the Old Testament to get the word “Elohim!” Wasn’t the New Testament written in Greek?), meaning “angels.” (Notice the plurality of the word, while there is only one God) While the Psalms passage is speaking of man, the Hebrews passage is showing Jesus in His humanity. Since the Hebrews passage uses the word “angels,” the Bible, not contradicting itself, is clearly quoting the Psalms passage in a parallel comparison. Therefore, Jesus in Hebrews was made a little lower than the “Angelos” as was man in Psalms. He kept His deity (Philippians 2:5-11).

And what is that mish-mosh about birth certificate? You inquire of the devil, “Do you have a birth certificate?” And when he cannot produce one, you order him out of your house. Concerning the current practice of addressing the devil, many of today’s Christians could benefit greatly from reading Jude v. 8, and 2 Peter 2.

By the time you get to Hebrews 2:9 you have taken what thousands of years of biblical scholarship interpreted, and changed it in a matter of minutes! How proud you must be to have corrected such a glaring oversight. Now, men are “more than just men,” and Jesus is less than God!

How many of your followers go home and check for themselves–as we are instructed to do–to see if your new revelations are true?

Now, with the table set, since Jesus is apparently not God anymore (for a little while), you can have Him subject to the pressure of temptation. You have Satan presenting Jesus with all the kingdoms of the world. You say that it had all been turned over to him, which is false. Remember, the earth and everything in it belongs to God, according to Scripture. You say, “that’s exactly what Jesus came for,” and Satan says, ‘You bow down and worship me, I’ll give you everything back!’ “Don’t you think that was pressure on His flesh?!” you ask. First of all, Satan can’t give God what already belongs to Him! Secondly, Jesus didn’t come into the world and endure unimaginable suffering for stuff! Finally, was it pressure on His flesh? No! If it were, we’d still be in our sins waiting for someone better to come and save us.

You further attempt to demonstrate your point by illustrating an example where Jesus, when challenged by Satan that He turn stones into bread, reaches out to do it with His right hand and clamps His left hand over it to stop Himself. You are clearly saying that Jesus almost commits this act. You portray Jesus as almost taking Satan at his offer, which clearly contradicts Jesus’ own teaching that we sin even when we think of committing a sinful act. So, if Jesus mulls over the possibility of giving in to Satan’s temptation–for even a nanosecond–we are doomed. God cannot sin. (Were the “angels” who attended Jesus after his temptation in Matthew 4:11 “Elohim,” too? If so, do you have gods attending God?)

Many people mistakenly think that this “temptation” means that Jesus rubbed His chin, cocked His mouth to one side, rolled His eyes upward, and at the last second said “. . . Naw, no thanks.” This would violate the law of contradiction that a perfect God cannot break. What “temptation” means in this instance, is that Satan held a fresh, hot loaf of bread under Jesus’ nose, and the Saviour didn’t sniff. Jesus was made an offer–one that He didn’t consider accepting. If a moth threatens a Greyhound bus on the highway, does the bus even for an instant feel threatened? Context goes a long way toward eliminating apparent contradictions in the Bible.

If you haven’t torn this letter to pieces by now, God bless you (even if you have). A lot more could be said, but this is a letter, not a book. All that I am attempting to do in this undertaking is shed some light on some problematic issues. The body of Christ is plagued enough from without with heresies of many varieties. If we claim to be of Christ, our doctrine and teaching need to be evidence of that.

The vast majority of Christians seem to be as vulnerable to flawed theology as non-believers, and those called to teach should be careful when tampering with the unplowed field of naive, searching minds. Teachers are held to a stricter standard and are responsible for leading or misleading God’s children. I would hate to think that you are fully aware of this fact and purposely say such disturbing things.

The true Scriptures are infinitely more interesting, suspenseful, and dramatic than any story invented by our weak human brains. Those thousands and millions drawn to your church and your telecasts will be just as enthralled by the truth, and their souls will be eternally more advantaged.

“With gentleness and respect”

Derrick L. Williams

He still preaches this stuff to this very day. Just check YouTube.

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26 Comments »

  1. Ahmmm…when u want to argue with a guy like Crefflo and indeed any other preacher in regard to doctrine, it is important your approach is OBJECTIVE as opposed to SENTIMENTAL!

    What I would appreciate is a clear dissecting of the word to disprove whatever ‘they’ have said. It may be popular to say “it is not necessarily God’s will for the saint to be blessed” but can you verify that in scripture? Any examples of righteous men in the Bible that were not Blessed? And what does the Bible really mean by being blessed? Is it just a spiritual state? or does it extend into the physical? i dare not answer those questions for you, read the Bible.

    Or if you say Adam is not possess the G – Gene (that is: have the attributes of God- to create and to have dominion) can you use scripture to disprove that?

    I can for sure, having listened to Mr. Creflo Dollar, say that he doesn’t teach asking and possessing whatever…he teaches that believers should grow in the word, read the word and in so doing are able to ask whatever (now this means you have grown to the level where you actually only ask in accordance to HIS WILL/WORD)

    I think at times people tend to listen to these preachers with already established biases and that means you will never be objective leave alone helpful in criticism.

    The so called Prosperity doctrine, for sure, has been abused but it doesn’t negate the truth the Bible teaches on prosperity and its purpose in the expansion of the Kingdom of God.

    I am against stereotyping every ‘rich’ preacher into the category of those that have abused this doctrine just because they drive a nice car or own a personal jet.

    thanks

    Comment by frank | August 21, 2007 | Reply

    • Deceived! Every time someone defends a certain preacher or church by saying “not all preachers, or not all churches”, I know that person is being defensive not objective. Please listen to your own words and apply them accordingly.

      Comment by Jeremiah Kid | May 3, 2010 | Reply

  2. My beloved Father’s own,

    Thank you for this letter that you wrote. I have also been greatly disturbed by some of the teaching I heard from Pastor Creflo Dollar to an extent that I have found myself crying as most times I realised that the spirit of error was driving his preaching. Like you, my letters to him were ignore.

    May the good Lord bless you and may we continue to “contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.” and do so with love.

    Masechaba

    Comment by masechabapublishers | August 21, 2007 | Reply

  3. Frank, thanks for your response. Forgive me if I wasn’t clear. My letter was not, necessarily, about whether men are blessed. Of course we are. I spent hours writing this letter with the Bible, a concordance, many other resources, and his video in front of me. I went point by point.Meticulously. I quoted the Scripture, and I quoted him.

    As to whether or not I can use Scripture to disprove Adam’s possessing a “God” gene, off the top of my head I know that God has repeatedly stated that there are NONE like him. It is a shame that Christians have to defend such heresy that assumes that we “filthy rags” are capable of Godhood. We whose hearts are desperately wicked. God is the Creator. We don’t create. We have dominion in the sense of being stewards over His creation, not in the sense that the Word of Faith propgates. So Adam was God with a little ‘g,’ but Jesus WASN’T God? What Christian believes this?

    Forgive me as well, if I have a bias against preaching that says that we can “speak” things into existence with our words. I was objective UNTIL I began to study the Word and learned to rightly divide the Word of truth. At that point, I became biased in favor of God alone. Let HIM be true and every other man a liar.
    I don’t want people thinking that their own faith is at fault when troubles arise, and that God is a butler at their beck and call. I would expect not to raise your ire in this effort. Thank you. Derrick (Maxdaddy)

    Comment by maxdaddy | August 21, 2007 | Reply

  4. Creflo is a joke. Maxdaddy Iam proud you took the time to write Dollar ( his name alone should warn people). But as typical with these WoF peachers they dont care about the truth of the bible, as much as they do about the money the church brings them. I think the best way to get their attention is to educate the people that follow and support them. BTW Love your site.

    Comment by Victory | August 21, 2007 | Reply

  5. Hey, man.

    Nice letter. Truly, well done. I agree almost 100 percent.

    One issue that I believe most Christians would do well to not is that “God gave dominion” does not have any actual correlation to our notion of domination. Dominion comes from the Latin, domus, which means home. So God gave Adam a home among the animals, a home on earth. Certainly, we are not only animals, but we are animals also, and we are the animals in charge of the home, and naming, etc.

    It’s really something for man to ask for more when he has already trashed the earth.

    What do you think?

    Pax tecum,

    David

    Comment by David | August 22, 2007 | Reply

  6. David, I agree with you on the fact that “dominion” here means that we are God’s chief stewards over creation, as I said in my response to Frank’s comment yesterday. While we have been poor stewards in many cases, I don’t hesitate to ask God for help and provision in everything. This prosperity movement, however, seems to make “blabbing and grabbing” the primary reason for even addressing God at all. And the only ones who get anything are the preachers. Thanks for reading all of that, and for responding. Derrick.

    Comment by maxdaddy | August 22, 2007 | Reply

  7. David,

    Great job. It is really disturbing to see multitudes of people being so gullible. What is worse however, is the reproach that is being brought upon Christ and true Christians. Although the mass is running down the broad way, thank the Lord that throughout the history of redemption He has always preserved to Himself a remnant of His own. Called out of the deceit & darkness of false teachers, and kept by His own power. Praise be unto our blessed Saviour. Continue to contend for THE FAITH!

    Comment by Will | August 22, 2007 | Reply

  8. Creflo Dollar will continue to ignore your letters. Apparently sound theology is not a part of his “religious business” plan!

    Comment by Will | August 22, 2007 | Reply

  9. I know, it’s frustrating, but he can’t say that he didn’t know, that no one told him. I did my little part. Plus, it made me study harder. Derrick (maxdaddy).

    Comment by maxdaddy | August 22, 2007 | Reply

  10. Dear Derrick,

    Actually, your letter to “cashflow” Creflo shows far greater deal of Bible exegesis and understanding than his “doctorate” degree and years of Bible teaching ever did.

    Creflo is a wolf and should be regarded as such. Recently, I reviewed his sermon, “Jesus Became God” (I have an audio file of it), and it was full of contradictions and confusion as a man attempted to strip Jesus of divinity in order to build a platform for his own claim to godhood.

    I do not understnd how anyone regenerated by the Holy Spirit can defend – muchless teach – such heretical things as Creflo and company do.

    I’d love to have your permission to reproduce your letter on my blog. Thank you for taking the command to contend for the faith serious.

    Comment by Yomi Adegboye | August 23, 2007 | Reply

  11. Yeah, he’s a wolf. An earlier commenter, Frank, suggested that I basically didn’t show biblical evidence for my claims. I thought I did. Your comment, and the others, gives me hope that some who claim Christ can think Scripturally and not fall for charismatic personalities. Yes, pingback(?) my letter. Thanks for reading it. Derrick.

    Comment by maxdaddy | August 23, 2007 | Reply

  12. Wow, this was an excellent letter. Extremely well thought out.

    I appreciate your use of the Scriptures to refute these false teachings.

    I’ll never understand how the Charismatic movement got hijacked by “God wants you to be rich.” I’m glad someone is earnestly contending for the faith.

    Comment by charismania | August 24, 2007 | Reply

  13. Thanks a lot!

    Comment by maxdaddy | August 24, 2007 | Reply

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  15. I just stumbled upon your blog and took the time to read this letter. I am just commenting to add my agreement to most of what you said. This word of faith movement has encompassed my mom, and it breaks my heart. I constantly show her the ways that the twisted logic she uses is off-base, but she has bought into it fully. I pray that many well spoken Christians like yourself keep blogging and speaking about this terrible lie being spread in our country and more people begin to understand that these ‘preachers’ do not speak for all of Christianity!!

    Comment by missy | August 30, 2007 | Reply

  16. Missy, Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to the letter. I’ll be praying for your mother. I have dozens of extended family members entrenched in the Jehovah’s Witness cult, so I know of your pain.

    Comment by maxdaddy | August 30, 2007 | Reply

  17. Creflo Dollar did not make up his last name. That is his birth name. His father was in law enforcement in Georgia and he held that job for many years, HIS name is Creflo Dollar SR. So if he was using a bogus name, then the scam, as you say would have had to go all the way back a whole generation! People – please know what you’re talking about before you start talking. I’m not defending his teachings, but when people start saying things and don’t know what they’re talking about, it makes it hard to listen to the rest of their comments.

    Comment by Inputer | September 3, 2007 | Reply

  18. Who said anything about him making up his last name?? Who said anything about a scam?? Although the whole Prosperity movement is clearly designed to make the preachers rich. Maybe you have me confused with someone else…

    Comment by maxdaddy | September 3, 2007 | Reply

  19. In comment number 1 above, Frank said:

    Or if you say Adam is not possess the G – Gene (that is: have the attributes of God- to create and to have dominion) can you use scripture to disprove that?

    Are you kidding me? You have the whole thing upside down. The question is: Can Creflo use Scriptures to prove that Adam possessed the G-gene?

    Again, Farnk said:

    I can for sure, having listened to Mr. Creflo Dollar, say that he doesn’t teach asking and possessing whatever…he teaches that believers should grow in the word, read the word and in so doing are able to ask whatever (now this means you have grown to the level where you actually only ask in accordance to HIS WILL/WORD)

    Sir, you haven’t been listening to Creflo, but someone else. I have Creflo’s media materials and his magazines. I have read his materials for years. Please go listen to Creflo and come back with your comments.

    Finally, Frank said:

    The so called Prosperity doctrine, for sure, has been abused but it doesn’t negate the truth the Bible teaches on prosperity and its purpose in the expansion of the Kingdom of God.

    The Bible does not teach prosperity. The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ teaches contentment, the very opposite of the prosperity drive. Take a look at: 1 Timothy 6 and Hebrews 13:5,6.

    Does God grant some people riches? Yes. Does the Bible teach that we should desire riches? No.

    Comment by Yomi Adegboye | September 10, 2007 | Reply

  20. the financial provision of the gospel is solely the duty of the church the body of christ. once the is behaving as a body there will not be any lack. as Jesus intended it. let me give you an example : if someone is a member of a 10000 people church and he has 5000 dollars problem. every member will have to give just 50 cents to solve the problem . but the church today say that to sow a seed (money that the member does not have) and God miraculously or by faith will provide. in the book of James I read that if a brother is destitute or have a need and you who have don’t provide for that need but instead tell him to go in peace or sow a seed, you are a wicked . jesus is lord . let’s preach the word of Jesus . it is a shame for a woman to speak in church. do not conform yourself to this world.

    Comment by choupite | September 29, 2007 | Reply

  21. The truth of the matter is the spirit of opposition has infilttrated the body of Christ such that this false prophets/false christs (Matthew24:11) that our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ warned us about are busy deceiving many into worshipping either self or money. They are doing everything for gain and not for the love of God hence it very important for each and every child of God to know the Word of God and to ask of the Holy Spirit to teach Him into all things, for us not to be deceived by such spirits that comes in a form of sheeps when they are
    actually wolves.Jude1:4 “For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.”
    Jude1: 11 – 13 Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah. These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever. Revelation 2:14 “But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality. The Word of God in Deuteronomy 13:1-5 says “(1) If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives thee a sign or a wonder, (2) And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; (3) Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proves you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. (4) Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. (5) And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

    There are similar activities are currently deluding multitudes including many sincere Christians into violating the commandments of the Almighty God. Behind each spiritist activity lurks the treacherous lie of Satan, who untiringly seeks to seduce unsuspecting souls – mostly by means of miracles – into committing some spiritual abomination with himself. A close examination of the claims of these spiritist outlets will soon reveal that, in the final analysis, they invariably set aside the Laws of God in favour of ‘awe-inspiring manifestations’ that pose as truth: manifestations which are in reality the unclean output of lying demons. Spiritism is the most deceptive of all evils and because of its spectacular demonstrations will in the last days – “almost deceive the very elect.” “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect” Matthew24:24

    Jude1:4 “For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.”
    Jude1: 11 – 13 Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah. These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.

    2Peter 2:15-16 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man’s voice restrained the madness of the prophet.

    Comment by masechabapublishers | October 9, 2007 | Reply

  22. […] the Church today. However, as I’ve learned from my time on the charismatic circles : “Scrutiny is mutiny;” and the response to any scrutiny is always the same: “Touch not mine […]

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  23. Derrick,

    I share your sentiments exactly! I only wish you would take your message to the air waves so that more people could be enlightened. There are millions of people who believe as we believe but are afraid to speak or act against for fear of being outcast. I would love to discuss with you the possibility of creating a national platform for this purpose. It’s time to stand up and defend the “Word of God”!

    SURE!! You name the place and time! Let’s talk! Derrick.

    Comment by Jeremiah Kid | May 3, 2010 | Reply

  24. God is our refuge We are not God Our opinions donot matter We are tiny little atoms taking up space God has the final say We spend most of our lives fighting the battle of the mind.Men of God should always bedis respected We all fall short of the Glory of God We spend most of.our lives looking for flaws.I wish all people would keep their opinions to themselves No disrespect intended Words Hurt and break spirits .Broken spirits cause people to commit suicide.Imagine your opinions being.more important than breathing Let everyone that has breath praise theLord God I wish alll opinion woild.dissipate.and.go into arealm.that woild never.return Pleasd God heal the spirit of All true Pastors.Reverse thecurse.Om Om OmDunamis Shalom

    Comment by General Tessa McClendon | January 24, 2013 | Reply

    • That’s YOUR opinion…
      People are damaged — spiritually AND physically — by bad theology such as this.

      Comment by maxdaddy | August 3, 2014 | Reply


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